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He was always aware that most young gay men and women probably didnít know who he was. Yet Larry Kramer had a worldwide reputation in two important spheres: as an author of some of the most important gay fiction and plays ever written, and as the foremost AIDS activist and campaigner of our time. He recently talked to OutUK's Steve Bustin about his incredible work and remarkable life. ago at the age of 84, less than a month short of his 85th birthday.
Kramer has been described as the father of modern gay activism, but is that an epithet he welcomes?

ďMaybe AIDS activism, and I suspect I am, although I never think about it. I was thrilled that Act-Up came back to life at a Barcelona AIDS conference many years after I founded it in 1987. It was a direct action protest organisation that chose government agencies and corporations as targets to publicise a lack of treatment and funding for people with AIDS.

I was always interested to see that the publicity Act-Up got was really rather supportive during this time as in the old days we were condemned out of hand.Ē

Kramer distinguishes between AIDS activism and gay activism, although he believes they should be inextricably linked. ďThere was a gay activism before AIDS activism, but activism certainly blossomed with AIDS, as lots of people came out of the closet when AIDS started.Ē

ďIím still an activist, as if I see something I can do to stick my nose in, through a phone call or a letter, I do it, but Iím not involved in an organisation. Iím called a lot for advise or use of my name Ė you can never stop being an activist if youíre serious about it. Iíve been so front and centre about it I no longer have to go out and hit them over the head so much! Having said that, Iím sure there are a great many young gay men in America who have no idea who I am!Ē

FUTURE OF AIDS ACTIVISM

Larry is worried about the future of gay and AIDS activism, with young gay men and women looking like they are becoming increasingly apolitical and apathetic.

ďI donít see any new life bubbling up, and people are becoming complacent. If prominent people are involved in AIDS charites in the UK how have we come this far? I thought weíd broken down enough barriers to become an international network, being responsibly visible, like the International Red Cross, something like a United Nations without the back-biting.

Weíre as visible as we are; yet in terms of power weíre still totally invisible. Thatís really shocking Ė we think that visibility gives us power, but it doesnít; it has to be fought for for ever.Ē



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HEALTH ISSUES

In 2001, at the age of 66, Larry Kramer was in dire need of a liver transplant, but he was turned down by Mount Sinai Hospital's organ transplant list. People living with HIV were routinely considered inappropriate candidates for organ transplants because of complications from HIV and perceived short lifespans.

"Everything came to an abrupt stop when I got sick, and I was given 6 months to live. It was a true miracle for me that a new drug (Adefivir) appeared, which controls Hepatitis B. That gave me some breathing time, as shortly after then, liver transplants became available for those co-infected with HIV and Hepatitis B. I was the 22nd co-infected person to receive a liver. Iíve been so, so lucky, as from the word go Iíve never got sick, since the late 70s when I was infected. So many are dead, so why Iím alive I have no idea.Ē

Ill-health did not, however, curtailed his literary work. ďIím working on a new novel, which is a history of America combined with a history of American homosexuality and a history of AIDS. I know itís very ambitious, and I was terrified I wouldnít finish it. However now Iím so well, Iím back at work and I think itíll take another couple of years. Itís called The American People and itís 2500 pages already! Itíll have everything I have to say in it. Iíve never worked on such a big canvas before, and itís a huge challenge!Ē

The book was published as a novel by Farrar, Straus & Giroux in 2015. Kramer and his partner, architectural designer David Webster, were together from 1991 until Kramer's death. Webster's ending of his relationship with Kramer in the 1970s had inspired Kramer to write Faggots. When asked about their reunion decades later, Webster replied: "He'd grown up, I'd grown up."

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